Steve ANWsaid:
...It is like the video someone shared the other day with some comedienne pretending she had performed to a naturist group in a London pub theatre. Talking about the man in the front row trying to keep his aroused penis down and the staff complaining about all the chair scrubbing afterwards because of naked bottoms on the seats. This is both fowl and unfunny but also highly misleading, unrealistic and prejudice, but those that listen take it as gospel and it undermines the whole idea of naturism."
I suppose it's always been a part of human culture to some extent, but I'm sure the media are responsible for making everything hyper-sensationalised. It's absolutely cut-throat competition for viewers, listeners and readers, so everything is hyped and sensationalised, looking for (or inventing) an angle to rile people up and get their attention. I don't watch TV any more but when I did, I used to marvel at how so many programmes are about pitting one person against another in the hope of getting reactions - I called it 'conflict TV'. So, you can't just have coverage of naturists having a pleasant drama-free day together and not bothering anyone - there has to be outrage from neighbours, or some "think of the children" angle, or whatever. I think this constant barrage of negativity, sensationalism and conflict becomes part of society and people feel compelled to emulate it. It's like the latest phase of cyclists being demonised and made figures of hate in the media, and slow-witted people get riled up and turn to hating cyclists, rant about them on social media and so on. Last year it was migrants, this year it's cyclists, next year it will be some other group that it's considered acceptable to hate and villify. It's just a horrible way for society to go and I think a lot of it is driven very simply by competition in the media and their desperation to make a profit by any means possible. I don't really have any answers about how to make our culture more positive and relaxed about things. Just being nice and having a good time doesn't sell.
John Rsaid:
I don't really have any answers about how to make our culture more positive and relaxed about things. Just being nice and having a good time doesn't sell.
Actually that's not true, I do have one answer: Keep doing what ANW does and try to send out more positive messages and be open about what non-sexual social nudity is like.
As far as I remember, I'd have been about 10 in the mid 80's it was never a subject that was discussed.
You dressed and undressed in private and no-one ever really saw any other family member naked.
Weirdly though when young, as in under 10, I know they were happy to have us kids naked on a beach without a care in the world.
Nowadays I think a naturist resort is the only place you'd find that.
It is a sad sign of the times. Innocent childhood nudity on beaches is now laced with fear and paranoia. But in reality there is no more danger now than 30 or 50 years ago. And that danger is minimal. Children deserve to have a carefree approach to life and the only people truly responsible for stopping that are the well meaning but overly anxious parents.
the way i see it with adult paranoia over nude kids is that by making them more paranoid, and us being paranoid, it creates that abusive mind set that they are nothing more than potential abuse victims by default if nude.
as an adult i may the the target of some male abuser but nobody says i should be blamed and shamed because i may attract somebody who choses to sexually harm me, in the same way i shouldn't be ashamed of my bank account if some scammer choses to empty it.
we have a right as adults to feel safe and secure out there dressed in as much or less as is legal to be so without fear of harm. We are more at risk from harm whilst dressed, by a dressed abuser in a dressed environment.
children also have the right to feel safe wearing as much or as little as is allowed in a specific environment but teen girls cant walk home from school without pervy men shouting jail bait or worse at them, and that's not seem as abuse, it's not even a criminal offence to do that
so clearly it's not the nudity that's the problem, it's the perverted population that's the problem, but they're too perverted to see it in themselves